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this advertising the romney camp is doing, how effective it is? >> for one thing they're far behind in terms of spanish language ads, far behind the obama campaign. they've only spent about half as much as the obama campaign had. that number has rampd up dramatically. they say they're going to do a full ad blitz in the last month. they introduced a new ad today which attacks president obama for leaving a $6 trillion national they say for the children and grandchildren. they talk about, this is the spanish-language ad, they talk about how this is going to be a debt they're going to have to pay. they've also come up with some ads where they talk, where you have hispanic voters talking about why they feel disappointed in president obama. where they feel that his promises were not kept. so those are some of the things we're starting to see from them. things that seem a little bit more artful, that some analysts have told me that they think actually are more on the mark, might have more resonance with the hispanic community >> woodruff: very quickly. c
this advertising the romney camp is doing, how effective it is? >> for one thing they're far behind in terms of spanish language ads, far behind the obama campaign. they've only spent about half as much as the obama campaign had. that number has rampd up dramatically. they say they're going to do a full ad blitz in the last month. they introduced a new ad today which attacks president obama for leaving a $6 trillion national they say for the children and grandchildren. they talk about,...
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there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of colorado for your hospitality. 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to a marry me. so i just want to wish sweety you happy anniversary, and let you know a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have beg
there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i...
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>> well, i can tell you, romney campaign denied what i'm going to tell you right now, but i know it's true. i got it from people inside the campaign and not the spokesman, it is that whole numbers, uneven sort of you know, performance on the campaign trail the last couple of weeks. big money that was committed to mitt romney was start to go move elsewhere, starting, beginning of a trend, moving to the senate. >> congressional, yeah, yeah. >> no doubt that was happening. they're hoping that the people inside the campaign raising money in major states are hoping this debate performance will turn things around. i could tell you, it was jazzed up yesterday and jazzed up after the debate. i can't tell you whether it worked yet, we'll know by monday. >> they're saying that they were getting two donations every second after the debate. so they're saying that they're doing well. and there are limits on how much money they can take in, a lot of big donors have already given money as you know, romney takes money from large, you know, people, not from tiny people, you know, putting 2, 4, $6. if
>> well, i can tell you, romney campaign denied what i'm going to tell you right now, but i know it's true. i got it from people inside the campaign and not the spokesman, it is that whole numbers, uneven sort of you know, performance on the campaign trail the last couple of weeks. big money that was committed to mitt romney was start to go move elsewhere, starting, beginning of a trend, moving to the senate. >> congressional, yeah, yeah. >> no doubt that was happening....
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that is the new focus on the right. romney was making that point. >> forgive me. that is it a complete misinterpretation. i sat there with all due respect. >> you do not have all due respect for me. >> go ahead. >> hospitality. >> you are eating up time here. ok, it is my turn to talk now. >> there is a distinction -- you overlook the distinction. tax rates and tax revenue. when romney is saying -- how plane can i make it? we are going to cut rates. we are not going to reduce the amount of revenue. exactly as what happened in 1986 with the reagan tax reform. you cut the rates, you eliminate deductions, and you end up with the same amount of revenue. it is what was recommended in the commission that obama had appointed. >> there is study after study after study that says even if he succeeded in doing that, it is not enough to achieve the targets we're talking about. what is interesting is, you never ar romney say, no new taxes. you do not hear him say that. >> colby? >> he proposes a 20% across-the- board tax cuts. >> marginal tax rate. >> alternative minimum tax.
that is the new focus on the right. romney was making that point. >> forgive me. that is it a complete misinterpretation. i sat there with all due respect. >> you do not have all due respect for me. >> go ahead. >> hospitality. >> you are eating up time here. ok, it is my turn to talk now. >> there is a distinction -- you overlook the distinction. tax rates and tax revenue. when romney is saying -- how plane can i make it? we are going to cut rates. we are...
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mike's right that this created an opportunity for romney. he's also right that romney performed better than his campaign has performed recently. but let's remember what most of the problems that romney has had recently. his campaign's been not that great. the prident's team has defined him in a negative way with millions dollars of advertising and so far. he's been a rotten candidate. the things that have really hurt him before his 47% statement, his reaction to libya the stuff that happened to europe. there's a variety of things that happened and it's all about his bad candidate skills. so the part i want to agree with mike about is, he has a huge opportunity going forward but it's not the campaign or not only the campaign that has the opportunity. what the spotlight's going to be on tomorrow is, is the mitt romney that we saw last night in this debate who seems not like the mitt romney we've seen for the last six months, is that mitt romney the mitt romney we see tomorrow. do we see a new reinvigorated mitt romney. is he now putting a foot
mike's right that this created an opportunity for romney. he's also right that romney performed better than his campaign has performed recently. but let's remember what most of the problems that romney has had recently. his campaign's been not that great. the prident's team has defined him in a negative way with millions dollars of advertising and so far. he's been a rotten candidate. the things that have really hurt him before his 47% statement, his reaction to libya the stuff that happened to...
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he did not have the right sound. instead of sounding sympathetic, to people that lost a job it was a little bit well, i don't care if it is getting better. it really isn't getting better. and you can't come across as rooting against, oh, it's actually 11%, there's got to be a sense that, you know, that you are happy that people are-- that things are better. you can't come across as cheer up, eventually things will get worse. that can't be part of your message. >> woodruff: and you mentioned the debate. to the two of you, here we are 48 hours afterwards, david, does it look any different as you look backward through the lens? >> i have two questions. one, first on the romney side he established much more moderate persona i think than he has at any time. so the question to me is how does he develop tham. does he sort of flush out that moderate persona. and try to hit the people he really has to hit which is white working class women in places like ohio to show how government can help them out and how he has a plan to h
he did not have the right sound. instead of sounding sympathetic, to people that lost a job it was a little bit well, i don't care if it is getting better. it really isn't getting better. and you can't come across as rooting against, oh, it's actually 11%, there's got to be a sense that, you know, that you are happy that people are-- that things are better. you can't come across as cheer up, eventually things will get worse. that can't be part of your message. >> woodruff: and you...
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right. we could go mitt romney event and film romney footage. would we getting the same things the news crew get. we can't shoot an ad of romney talks to the call are a why he'll be the best president. what it does is the anticoordination laws they almost make all the outside group negative because at that point you know we're not coordinating with barack obama to run a negative ad about him. we were to run a poz ad about mitt romney people would question where you get the footage from. in 2010 cross roads ran an ad supportive of now senator rob portman in the ohio senate race, we had pulled the video food age from a public i are available place youtube. -- [inaudible] within the fcc over something silly perversely the campaign laws have created a situation there's a lot of contrast advertising because of the prohibition. >> the committee is due. the economic their inexpect arms they doing a bunch of comparative ads. they don't coordinate each of the candidates is throwing the information on the party website. democrats, republicans same thing.
right. we could go mitt romney event and film romney footage. would we getting the same things the news crew get. we can't shoot an ad of romney talks to the call are a why he'll be the best president. what it does is the anticoordination laws they almost make all the outside group negative because at that point you know we're not coordinating with barack obama to run a negative ad about him. we were to run a poz ad about mitt romney people would question where you get the footage from. in 2010...
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romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we want to continue to join the world or do we want t stand-alone and use american exceptionism as our sort of justification for more military action? i think it is a real difference. it is within the 40-yard line on both sides but there is a difference, center right, center left and i think it is a good judgment for the american people to think which direction should we be heading. >> #02: thank you, chris, great to have you. >> charlie, it is always great, thank you. >> rose: we will be back, stay with us. >> rose: we continue our analysis of last night's debate from washington, david david leonha
romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we...
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>> for me, it helped soften romney. to hear it right from the horse's mouth that he does believe in the role of government helping in day to day maybe not to the extent of obama does was helpful. >> i think that, you know, if we look at government in the, in the eyes of history there have been very important roles that government has played in changing, that various things that are very important to all of us today whether it be civil rights, whether it be, you know workplace safety, you know, how long you work every week, these kind of things are all things that were implemented from the top down and nobody here's going to say that the 40-hour work week was a bad idea. nobody's going to say that. that... that you know people of color can now vote. nobody's going to say that. it just, out of were they very, very popular things when they came out? no, they were not. voting right, voting rights act, civil rights act were very... very vilified in many parts of the country. but the idea that you know amacare isot t ansr, it
>> for me, it helped soften romney. to hear it right from the horse's mouth that he does believe in the role of government helping in day to day maybe not to the extent of obama does was helpful. >> i think that, you know, if we look at government in the, in the eyes of history there have been very important roles that government has played in changing, that various things that are very important to all of us today whether it be civil rights, whether it be, you know workplace...
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>> i think the most effective ad that they have is on the air right now. it's capturing a small segment of the statement that governor romney made behind closed doors, not realized he was being taped, about the 47%. and it puts pictures of people who fall into that 47% on the screen and basically suggests that governor romney doesn't want to represent you and you and you. >>> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax, including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. >> doesn't the president have to worry about eryone? >>> what makes it effective is governor romney's voice. and the fact that when you listen to the extended statement, you can make a plausible case that the tone was dismissive and so the ad reinforces something that people are inclined to believe about a republican, and they do it by showing you governor romney saying something and now a second factor comes into play. he said it in private. and when we're judging messages, we have these shortcuts that we ust come to trust. politicians
>> i think the most effective ad that they have is on the air right now. it's capturing a small segment of the statement that governor romney made behind closed doors, not realized he was being taped, about the 47%. and it puts pictures of people who fall into that 47% on the screen and basically suggests that governor romney doesn't want to represent you and you and you. >>> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax, including veterans, elderly, the disabled....
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there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. ( applause ) >> jim. >> lehrer: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, segment one, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss is determined, mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality. there are a lot of points i want to make tonight but the most important one is that 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary, and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs remember lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse, the financial
there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. ( applause ) >> jim. >> lehrer: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, segment one, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss is determined, mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much,...
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i think the romney folks have to change that. >> woodruff: what do you think? i think that's right. he needs to do two things. he needs to be on the attack on the offense against president obama. he needs to tie people's unhappiness withthe economy to obama's own policies because now we have a lot of people unhappy about the economy but not necessarily blaming the president for that. the other thing is he needs to convey to people that he understands something about the struggles of their lives because his biggest deficit in the polling that we do is that sense that he doesn't have a sense... he doesn't care about people like me. he doesn't understand the troubles and the problems that people like me have their lives. and that 47% video has been very damaging, i think, for governor romney on that point. he needs to do two things that are different and maybe hard to do. both of them simultaneously. >> woodruff: that's what i want to ask you. how much contradiction, how much of a tension do they feel in what he needs to do? >> this is so high-stakes for governor romney. this is a clos
i think the romney folks have to change that. >> woodruff: what do you think? i think that's right. he needs to do two things. he needs to be on the attack on the offense against president obama. he needs to tie people's unhappiness withthe economy to obama's own policies because now we have a lot of people unhappy about the economy but not necessarily blaming the president for that. the other thing is he needs to convey to people that he understands something about the struggles of their...
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people listen to both sides and concluded that mitt romney was right. because he happens to be right. and governor, respectfully, he said you lower the corporate tax rate to 25% and the petroleum industry exemptions can go away. that was another specific. >> he didn't say that. >> yes, he did say that. >> he said it might go away. he was not specific. >> let me play for you a series of clips because there's a lot of talk about, obviously, how important this election is and whether or not the american people, the voters were well-served last night. listen to this. >> dodd frank. >> dodd frank. >> bowles simpson. >> bowles simpson. >> did you think things got wonky last night? >> i think governor strickland was watching a different debate because it was obvious mitt romney said he would not cut taxes on the upper income americans but cut taxes on middle income americans. by the way, everybody is saying, why was obama pretty bad? it's pretty simple to me, what is he going to run on, his record? is he going to run on jobs? is he going to run on finances or
people listen to both sides and concluded that mitt romney was right. because he happens to be right. and governor, respectfully, he said you lower the corporate tax rate to 25% and the petroleum industry exemptions can go away. that was another specific. >> he didn't say that. >> yes, he did say that. >> he said it might go away. he was not specific. >> let me play for you a series of clips because there's a lot of talk about, obviously, how important this election is...
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too. >> that doesn't mean it's out of reach for mitt romney. i think he has to shift it off to personal stuff and try to get it on the policy stuff and try to run a very policy heavy campaign. that by the way is not what he did this week. he has done a much more compassionate campaign to try to move up his personal ratings. i think that is the wrong strategy. >> is that how he turns it around, by what he talks about. >> i think he's in a difficult position right now, judy, because he's going into debate right now. you have been a little bit behind in this race all the way along. so you say okay, wait until we pick a vice president. you pick a vice president, get a flurry, nothing happens. well, the convention. and now we go in the convention and you know, after the convention, obama opens up a gapment so now it is the debates so the pressure builds. are you going to go in, and do a hail mary pass. everybody has got a trick play they want to use, the statue of liberty, charge them with this, let's do that. so i think it becomes more difficult fo
too. >> that doesn't mean it's out of reach for mitt romney. i think he has to shift it off to personal stuff and try to get it on the policy stuff and try to run a very policy heavy campaign. that by the way is not what he did this week. he has done a much more compassionate campaign to try to move up his personal ratings. i think that is the wrong strategy. >> is that how he turns it around, by what he talks about. >> i think he's in a difficult position right now, judy,...
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neither mitt romney nor president obama even mention the fiscal cliff. they talked a lot about the economy, they talked a lot about jobs. if i were a voter, i would be demanding an answer right now on exactly how anyone who wants any elective office in washington plans to prevent this insanity. >> it sort of came up once when jim lehrer reminded them and said, raise your hand if you'll take a deal for one dollar in tax increases you'll take $10 in spending cuts. neither one of them wanted to take that deal. neither wants to approach this because no one wants to say if i cut a real deal, i will cut the programs you love. governor romney knows the revenue question will be back on the table in some form. senator nunn has been gone from the town for a while and he's probably grateful for that. he used to serve in what they call the world's most deliberative body. not so much anymore. >>> coming up, winston churchill once said, you can always count on americans to do the right thing after they've tried everything else. i'll ask senator nunn why he's optimisti
neither mitt romney nor president obama even mention the fiscal cliff. they talked a lot about the economy, they talked a lot about jobs. if i were a voter, i would be demanding an answer right now on exactly how anyone who wants any elective office in washington plans to prevent this insanity. >> it sort of came up once when jim lehrer reminded them and said, raise your hand if you'll take a deal for one dollar in tax increases you'll take $10 in spending cuts. neither one of them wanted...
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romney kept getting thing done by president obama, his president right saying mitt romney's numbers do not add up? >> no, he was not right. what romney is proposing is lowering tax rates, getting people back to work to generate tax revenues. he never said that taxes on the rich would make up for the deficit. president obama kept saying that. obviously he did not get how that works. tracy: listen to the sound bite from last night, mitt romney talking about the off shoring of businesses and tax businesses. >> to get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? i have been in business 25 years. i have no idea what you are talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant, but the idea you get a break for sending jobs overseas is simply not the case. tracy: christian, was governor romney right on that point? >> no, he was actually wrong. earnings that do not subject to income tax money that is held offshore in effect incentivizing companies to have offshore jobs and keep the money outside the united states. i don't know where the governor was confused, but actually that is something that is
romney kept getting thing done by president obama, his president right saying mitt romney's numbers do not add up? >> no, he was not right. what romney is proposing is lowering tax rates, getting people back to work to generate tax revenues. he never said that taxes on the rich would make up for the deficit. president obama kept saying that. obviously he did not get how that works. tracy: listen to the sound bite from last night, mitt romney talking about the off shoring of businesses and...
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>> tom: it was right back to the campaign trail today for president obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets that $5 trillion number he used again today. governor romney's plan to cut tax rates by 20% would add up to about $5 trillion over ten years, assuming no other changes. but governor romney is planning to make other changes by eliminating tax deductions worth about the same amount. but the president is accurate when he says governor romney is making many promises in his tax plan. romney says upper-income people will not get a net tax cut; middle-income people will not see their taxes go up; incentives for savings and investment won't be touched; the estate tax and alternative minimum tax will be elim
>> tom: it was right back to the campaign trail today for president obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets...
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mitt romney's remark about 47%. >> what did you read into that? >>. >> i read a lot. >>> what i read is a, he didn't understand what was really the economics of what was going on. because 47%, he said didn't pay income taxes. but many of those people pay payroll taxes. many of those are young people, old people, after all, many of the older people may not be paying income taxes now but they paid their social security contributions. and now they're getting back what they paid for. so to say that they were freeloaders was really denigrating a lifetime of work that they had contributed to. >> rose: where is the federal reserve in all of this? >> the federal reserve obviously wasn't doing what it should have done in the years before the crisis. >> it was paying too much attention to interest rates and not enough attention to employment. >> that was one of the problems. it was not paying enough attention to what the banks were doing. one of the members of the fed actually talked about it. there is a housing bubble going on there is predatory lending go
mitt romney's remark about 47%. >> what did you read into that? >>. >> i read a lot. >>> what i read is a, he didn't understand what was really the economics of what was going on. because 47%, he said didn't pay income taxes. but many of those people pay payroll taxes. many of those are young people, old people, after all, many of the older people may not be paying income taxes now but they paid their social security contributions. and now they're getting back what...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people just hope he remains upright. he's a big napper, john. big napper. mitt romney, 90 minutes awake and upright means big win for the camp. >> so jonathan, pugh had an interesting poll showing that president obama is expected to win the debate by a51% and mitt romney by 29%. it seems like president obama is more highly anticipated as the winner of the debate. do these sort of expectations setting games actually work for voters? >> i don't think they matter too much for the voters. it's a lot of fun for us to talk about. you know, as the comedy that you were just playing before suggested, if either one of these guys gets a complete sentence out, it should be a surprise to all of us. look, i think that it -- it matters a little bit on the margins, working the reporters who then report to the public. by and large i think the public is pretty good at making its own judgments. i don't think people walk in going, well, my expectations is about a 4, so if he gets a 6, i'll vote for him. if he gets a 5, no way. i don't thin
right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people just hope he remains upright. he's a big napper, john. big napper. mitt romney, 90 minutes awake and upright means big win for the camp. >> so jonathan, pugh had an interesting poll showing that president obama is expected to win the debate by a51% and mitt romney by 29%. it seems like president obama is more highly anticipated as the winner of the debate. do these sort of expectations setting games actually...
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he will come down this corridor right here. up these stairs. to the stage. the president will be introduced first on to the stage. this is where he will go to his podium. governor romney will come from the other side of the stage, will be introduced second. the order of questioning, president obama won the toss. he gets the first question. closing statesments, romney won the toss so he will go last. in this auditorium there are 1 ,500 seats. we don't know how many exact people will be here but we can tell you this. everybody, there will be millions and millions and millions of people tuning in to this debate to see the two men at these two podiums. answer these questions. an talk to each other. "special report" continues after this break. ♪ chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >> bret: back outside the richie center, the top human resources official at the veterans administration resigned over another spending scandal. obama administration appointee john sepelveda quit as an i
he will come down this corridor right here. up these stairs. to the stage. the president will be introduced first on to the stage. this is where he will go to his podium. governor romney will come from the other side of the stage, will be introduced second. the order of questioning, president obama won the toss. he gets the first question. closing statesments, romney won the toss so he will go last. in this auditorium there are 1 ,500 seats. we don't know how many exact people will be here but...
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right exactly i mean the whole strategy of the obama team has been to portray met romney as an unacceptable choice in various ways to portray him as an extremely rich man who doesn't understand ordinary people's problems to portray a must someone who has on acceptably unacceptable tax policies that really favor the rich excessively that strategy came undone to a certain extent last night and i think that romney did really play his hand pretty strongly in terms of both protesting that he did have a concern for so-called ordinary people and also suggesting that rightly or wrongly that his tax plan was more fair or less favoring the wealthy although let's talk about just because of exactly nihilo me ask you it was a political malpractise for obama not to mention the forty seven percent. political malpractise really strip it strange it was very surprising it was very very surprising that has been the big issue for the past couple of weeks in this campaign and it played perfectly into the case that obama is trying to make that romney simply doesn't care now perhaps obama was trying to sort of fl
right exactly i mean the whole strategy of the obama team has been to portray met romney as an unacceptable choice in various ways to portray him as an extremely rich man who doesn't understand ordinary people's problems to portray a must someone who has on acceptably unacceptable tax policies that really favor the rich excessively that strategy came undone to a certain extent last night and i think that romney did really play his hand pretty strongly in terms of both protesting that he did...
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(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than what people might think. undocumented immigrants pay taxes and do the jobs-- >> they are criminals, they're illegals. they broke the law. you know the law? they broke the law. if you break the law you're a criminal, jorge. >> at the same time there are millions of americans who benefit from their work and thousands of american companies who hire them. and we don't call them illegal so we have to talk about co-responsibility. they are here because we benefit from the work. (applause) >> stephen: i don't have a comeback for that so they'll edit it out
(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than...